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    Stoploss not "working" on first day of trade

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      lampalork last edited by

      Dear All,

      I'm using stoploss with the parent-child mechanism. It seems that the stoploss order I define is NOT working properly on the first day of the trade and I would like to understand why. I have built a toy strategy to illustrate behaviour. The system is built for GBPUSD on daily bars and we use cheat-on-close. The scenario is as follows:

      1. on Thursday 23-Jun-2016, we enter a long position (market order) with an attached stop-loss (stop order)
      2. entry order filled (submitted, accepted and completed) on the close of 23-Jun-2016 (cheat-on-close): 1.48380
      3. stoploss order to sent (submitted/accepted) at price 1.453830065123425
      4. stoploss is hit on Friday 24-Jun-2016 (see status completed) but order is filled with the open price of next business day (Monday 27-Jun-2016) instead of the stop price (1.34130 instead of 1.453830065123425)
        5 Finally, if I do the same thing but enter the position one day earlier (Wednesday 22-Jun-2016), the stop loss is indeed hit properly on Friday 24-Jun-2016 at the stop price

      Any help on this would be greatly appreciated!

      Regards
      Lamp'

      Market data looks like (O/H/L/C):

      2020-07-16 10:14:43,685 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  2016-06-23 00:00:00 - GBPUSD - 1.47176 - 1.49457 - 1.47108 - 1.48380- 0
2020-07-16 10:14:43,701 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  2016-06-24 00:00:00 - GBPUSD - 1.48474 - 1.50160 - 1.32227 - 1.36488 - 0
2020-07-16 10:14:43,726 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  2016-06-27 00:00:00 - GBPUSD - 1.34130 - 1.34813 - 1.31171 - 1.32250 - 0

      code for placing orders is as follows:

      size = 333668
stop_price = 1.453830065123425
self.main_order[asset] = self.buy(exectype=bt.Order.Market,
                                                      data=asset.data,
                                                      size=size,
                                                      name='ENTRY LONG',
                                                      transmit=False)
self.stoploss_order[asset] = self.sell(exectype=bt.Order.Stop, data=asset.data,
                                                           price=stop_price,
                                                           size=size,
                                                           name='STOPLOSS for LONG',
                                                           parent=self.main_order[asset])

      and the logs are as follows:

      2020-07-16 10:14:43,689 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  * * * * * REBALANCING * * * * *
2020-07-16 10:14:43,689 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  Date: Thursday 2016-06-23
2020-07-16 10:14:43,689 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  Portfolio Value: 1,000,000.00
2020-07-16 10:14:43,689 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  Cash: 1,000,000.00
2020-07-16 10:14:43,689 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  Open Positions:
2020-07-16 10:14:43,689 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  - - -
2020-07-16 10:14:43,700 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  -- ENTRY LONG Order Submitted 2016-06-24 00:00:00, Status Submitted: Ref: 1, Name: GBPUSD-GBPUSD-FX-0-1.0-5, Size: 333668, Price: NA Created: 2016-06-23 00:00:00 Price: 1.4838 Size: 333668
2020-07-16 10:14:43,700 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  -- STOPLOSS for LONG Order Submitted 2016-06-24 00:00:00, Status Submitted: Ref: 2, Name: GBPUSD-GBPUSD-FX-0-1.0-5, Size: -333668, Price: 1.45383 Created: 2016-06-23 00:00:00 Price: 1.453830065123425 Size: -333668
2020-07-16 10:14:43,700 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  -- ENTRY LONG Order Accepted 2016-06-24 00:00:00, Status Accepted: Ref: 1, Name: GBPUSD-GBPUSD-FX-0-1.0-5, Size: 333668, Price: NA Created: 2016-06-23 00:00:00 Price: 1.4838 Size: 333668
2020-07-16 10:14:43,700 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  -- STOPLOSS for LONG Order Accepted 2016-06-24 00:00:00, Status Accepted: Ref: 2, Name: GBPUSD-GBPUSD-FX-0-1.0-5, Size: -333668, Price: 1.45383 Created: 2016-06-23 00:00:00 Price: 1.453830065123425 Size: -333668
2020-07-16 10:14:43,700 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  -- ENTRY LONG Order Completed 2016-06-24 00:00:00, Status Completed: Ref: 1, Name: GBPUSD-GBPUSD-FX-0-1.0-5, Size: 333668, Price: NA Created: 2016-06-23 00:00:00 Price: 1.4838 Size: 333668
2020-07-16 10:14:43,700 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  2016-06-24 00:00:00 - JPYUSD - 0.009425 - 0.010113 - 0.009364 - 0.009790 - 0 [USDJPY - 106.099000 - 106.789000 - 98.887000 - 102.143000]
2020-07-16 10:14:43,704 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  * * * * * REBALANCING * * * * *
2020-07-16 10:14:43,705 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  Date: Friday 2016-06-24
2020-07-16 10:14:43,705 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  Portfolio Value: 960,320.20
2020-07-16 10:14:43,705 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  Cash: 1,000,000.00
2020-07-16 10:14:43,705 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  Open Positions:
2020-07-16 10:14:43,705 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  GBPUSD LONG size: 333668 entry price: 1.48380 unrealized pnl: -39,679.80 trading unit: 0
2020-07-16 10:14:43,705 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  - - -
2020-07-16 10:14:43,725 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  -- STOPLOSS for LONG Order Completed 2016-06-27 00:00:00, Status Completed: Ref: 2, Name: GBPUSD-GBPUSD-FX-0-1.0-5, Size: -333668, Price: 1.45383 Created: 2016-06-23 00:00:00 Price Executed : 1.3413 Size: -333668
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        ab_trader last edited by

        try to set coc=False for stop order:

        self.stoploss_order[asset] = self.sell(exectype=bt.Order.Stop, data=asset.data,
                                                           price=stop_price,
                                                           size=size,
                                                           name='STOPLOSS for LONG',
                                                           parent=self.main_order[asset], 
                                                           coc=False)

        it looks like your stop order is also affected by broker's cheat-on-close mode.

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          lampalork last edited by

          Hi @ab_trader ,
          Great insight but unfortunately it does not solve the issue. I have also tried to set coc to false at broker level. Traces can be found below (same result in term of exit price but obviously entry price is different; in both case, the stop price is "ignored"). It is quite strange.

          If you have any other ideas to investigate, I'm all ears :)

          Regards
          Lamp'

          set coc=False for stop order

          2020-07-16 17:13:54,243 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  * * * * * REBALANCING * * * * *
2020-07-16 17:13:54,243 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  Date: Friday 2016-06-24
2020-07-16 17:13:54,244 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  Portfolio Value: 960,320.20
2020-07-16 17:13:54,244 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  Cash: 1,000,000.00
2020-07-16 17:13:54,244 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  Open Positions:
2020-07-16 17:13:54,244 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  GBPUSD LONG size: 333668 entry price: 1.48380 unrealized pnl: -39,679.80 trading unit: 0
2020-07-16 17:13:54,244 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  - - -
2020-07-16 17:13:54,259 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  -- STOPLOSS for LONG Order Completed 2016-06-27 00:00:00, Status Completed: Ref: 2, Name: GBPUSD-GBPUSD-FX-0-1.0-5, Size: -333668, Price: 1.45383 Created: 2016-06-23 00:00:00 Price: 1.3413 Size: -333668

          set coc=False at broker level

          2020-07-16 18:04:23,495 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  * * * * * REBALANCING * * * * *
2020-07-16 18:04:23,495 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  Date: Friday 2016-06-24
2020-07-16 18:04:23,495 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  Portfolio Value: 960,006.55
2020-07-16 18:04:23,495 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  Cash: 1,000,000.00
2020-07-16 18:04:23,495 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  Open Positions:
2020-07-16 18:04:23,495 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  GBPUSD LONG size: 333668 entry price: 1.48474 unrealized pnl: -39,993.45 trading unit: 0
2020-07-16 18:04:23,495 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  - - -
2020-07-16 18:04:23,508 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  -- STOPLOSS for LONG Order Completed 2016-06-27 00:00:00, Status Completed: Ref: 2, Name: GBPUSD-GBPUSD-FX-0-1.0-5, Size: -333668, Price: 1.45383 Created: 2016-06-23 00:00:00 Price: 1.3413 Size: -333668

          @ab_trader said in Stoploss not "working" on first day of trade:

          coc=False

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            ab_trader last edited by

            @lampalork said in Stoploss not "working" on first day of trade:

            If you have any other ideas to investigate, I'm all ears :)

            Honestly no ideas for now, but I think this issue is specific to your code. First, this issue is independent from the cheat-on-close. Second, it depends on the bar: one bar returns the exit with the issue, another bar - doesn't.

            I'll try to recreate the problem using some arbitrary entries and stop orders to exit.

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              lampalork last edited by

              hello @ab_trader
              quick update. I did not resolve the issue per se but I have found the root cause. Issue lies with the parent/child mechanism.

              if I submit the 2 orders (main order and stoploss order) separately as follows:

              main_order = self.buy(exectype=bt.Order.Market,
                                    data=data0,
                                    size=size,
                                    name='ENTRY LONG',
                                    transmit=False)
stoploss_order = self.sell(exectype=bt.Order.Stop,
                                     data=data0,
                                     price=stop_price,
                                     size=size,
                                     name='STOPLOSS for LONG',
                                     parent=main_order)

              Then the stoploss is actually hit at stop price (1.453830065123425)
              See output:

              -- ENTRY LONG Order Submitted 2016-06-24 00:00:00, Status Submitted: Ref: 1, Name: GBPUSD, Size: 333668 Price: NA Created: 2016-06-23 00:00:00
-- STOPLOSS for LONG Order Submitted 2016-06-24 00:00:00, Status Submitted: Ref: 2, Name: GBPUSD, Size: -333668 Price: 1.45383 Created: 2016-06-23 00:00:00
-- ENTRY LONG Order Completed 2016-06-24 00:00:00, Status Completed: Ref: 1, Name: GBPUSD, Size: 333668, Price: NA Executed: 2016-06-24 00:00:00 Price: 1.48474 Size: 333668
-- STOPLOSS for LONG Order Completed 2016-06-24 00:00:00, Status Completed: Ref: 2, Name: GBPUSD, Size: -333668, Price: 1.45383 Executed: 2016-06-24 00:00:00 Price: 1.453830065123425 Size: -333668
--------------------------------  NOTIFY TRADE  --------------------------------
2016-06-24 00:00:00, Avg Price: 1.48474, Profit, Gross -10313.66, Net -10313.66
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

              Kind regards
              Bertrand

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                ab_trader last edited by

                Were you able to figure out the solution?

                I finally got some time and was able to recreate the issue on a simple script.

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                  lampalork last edited by

                  For now, I'm just submitting 2 separate orders (one for LONG/SHORT and this other for stoploss). this achieves the results I want. regards

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