line value behaviour

kam dorra

BV = value created with bt.If as a line in __init__
every value in this line should be < float('Inf')

buy = if c(0) > BV

scenario 1:
data = 5min ohlc
BV occurs at 9:05 am
c(0) > BV occurs at 9:10 am
buy signal occurs

scenario 2:
data = 5min ohlc
BV occurs at 9:05 am
c(0) > BV occurs at 9:35 am
(all prices between 9:05 and 9:35 < BV)
buy signal does NOT occur

If c(0) > BV occurs in the 5min bar that comes immediately after BV then buy signal happens.
but if c(0) > BV occurs in a 5min bar not immediately after BV the buy signal does not happen.

Shouldn't c(0) be compared to the last value created in the BV line, no matter how long ago it
was created?
Why does scenario 2 happen?
How to enable a buy signal in scenario 2?

Thanks.

backtrader

Sorry but the magical powers of recreating your code out of thin air and seeing your data in a crystal ball are far beyond what my humble human condition allows to me do.

No idea what BV is (even if you think you have completely specified it)
No idea what c(x) is
No idea what your data is.
No idea where c(x) and BV are being compared.

@kam-dorra said in line value behaviour:

If c(0) > BV occurs in the 5min bar that comes immediately after BV then buy signal happens.
but if c(0) > BV occurs in a 5min bar not immediately after BV the buy signal does not happen.

Even if you believe those sentences make sense, they don't.

@kam-dorra said in line value behaviour:

Shouldn't c(0) be compared to the last value created in the BV line, no matter how long ago it was created?

Apparently BV is also a line created with bt.If. The last value is NOT created long ago. It has a value for each iteration.

kam dorra

class tester(bt.Strategy):

    def __init__(self):

        h = self.data.high
        l= self.data.low
        c = self.data.close

        BBBV = bt.And(h(-3) > h(-2), h(-2) > h(-1)) # 3 highs down in row
        BBV = bt.If(BBBV, h(-1), float('Inf')) # returns h(-1) or Inf
        BV = bt.If(BBV < float('Inf'), BBV, float('Inf'))  # returns only non-Inf BBV? or does this do something else?
        self.buy = c(0) > BV

backtrader

@kam-dorra said in line value behaviour:

self.buy = c(0) > BV

Simpler writing does help ... try ...

self.buy = self.data.close > BV

@kam-dorra said in line value behaviour:

BV = bt.If(BBV < float('Inf'), BBV, float('Inf'))  # returns only non-Inf BBV? or does this do something else?

It's an if condition. It will return the current value of BBV (which can be float('Inf')) or float('Inf').

Rather than asking yourself that question, a print(BV[0]) in each next iteration will show you the actual values.

kam dorra

when I add print (BV[0]), i get:
IndexError: array index out of range

when I add print (BV), i get:
<backtrader.functions.If object at 0x7f1565ab8310>

an object somewhere in memory?

backtrader

@kam-dorra said in line value behaviour:

when I add print (BV[0]), i get:
IndexError: array index out of range

And you expect us to know where you do that ... because we will see it using tea leaves?